- LLS HAS DESTORYED THE ONCE POPULAR LADDER View
by SLY on September 5, 2000 at 14:53:24 PDT
One year ago from this date this ladder had 900 ladder members. Amazing how in only 365 days we lose 600 members. That is an average of about 2 people quitting the rigged ladder a day. What happened to the duke ladder? Why is everyone quitting? Well that is a very simple question. LLS!
LLS, IOD, and NDF have created a little organization that us Dukers like to call "Homosexuality." Due to this "Homosexuality" the ladder has been corrupted. IOD, NDF, and LLS hog the top ranks. Yes every now and then someone like ~LLS~Tessa will play a good player such as remedy, precise1, or Oddity, but notice the next match, is always a loss bumping one of them back out of top 10. Very interesting how ~LLS~OmegaQuest was voted in as Ladder OP when not one single person in the Duke Server even knew about it. Very interesting how people report this guy 200 times a day but yet his Soap Opera act, that cases staff falls for every time, succeeds. Very interesting how this ladder op supports LLS, IOD, and NDF giving eachother free wins. Very interesting how this ladder op bans people from the LLS server for simple "Ladder Please?" We want, what dukers want. Everyone outside of IOD, NDF, and LLS want OMEGA QUEST REMOVED FROM LADDER OP POSITION! AND WE WANT THE LADDER BACK TO THE WAY IT SHOULD BE, UN-RIGGED!Thx
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by *OC~Immortal-X* on September 5, 2000 at 15:55:44 PDT
I agree wit sly and Exit. The way described "homosexuality" is truly correct. When i first came to kali I joined the ladder. There wasnt a single ~LLS~ member in the top 50. Finally one of them got in on the top 10 and started giving each other ladder matches (free wins). After about a month of this going on everyone started quitting ladder. There was about 6 to 7 hundred members on the ladder when i first joined. Now there are what? about 300. Everyone in top 20 was real good and where they belong. Now all u see in top 20 is %*$#@$^ bs ~LLS~ NDF and IOD members that dont belong there. You can put me, sly, jpac, exit, and many others up against any ~LLS~ IOD or NDF and we would win 10 to 0. Take ~LLS~Tessa for example. She ladders a dogtut like map that u have to have glasses 2 inches thick to see anything as she does. I asked omega about the free wins. He says there is no such thing going on in the LLS clan and if there was he would find out about it. Well Omega its going on and u know about it u dyke. OmegaQuest is one of the lamest dukers i have ever met. He doesnt duke now but when i first came on kali he sucked so bad it was pathetic. ~LLS~ NDF and IOD hang out in the ~LLS~ sever aka lamers server which everyone that is good and asks one of them for a simple "LADDER match?" gtets kicked from the server. What kind of competition is it when u cant ask the TOP 5 players for a match? Honestly in my opinion ladder is so gay right now its pathetic. Omega is probably gonna respawned to out posts with his gay crap that he starts every time someone questions him. OmegaQuest doesnt belong in ladder OP. He allows this to go on. And when one of the LLS members doesnt report and they get reported for it. (all unreported match complaints go to OmegaQuest of LLS) He declines them all even when u have screenshots and everything he still declines them. We want are fawking ladder back. !!!!!!Thanx
Immortal-X- Re: LLS HAS DESTORYED THE ONCE POPULAR LADDER View
by SLY on September 5, 2000 at 16:22:52 PDT
Today, Tuesday, Immortal X took 2 screen shots of some LLS cheating activity. I converted them to GIF's so we could view them in browser. Here they are.
http://members.xoom.com/galaxy15/hmmz.gif
and
http://members.xoom.com/galaxy15/hmmz2.gifThis is only 00.5% of what lls does. We have so much more proof about LLS cheating that it's rediculous.
: I agree wit sly and Exit. The way described "homosexuality" is truly correct. When i first came to kali I joined the ladder. There wasnt a single ~LLS~ member in the top 50. Finally one of them got in on the top 10 and started giving each other ladder matches (free wins). After about a month of this going on everyone started quitting ladder. There was about 6 to 7 hundred members on the ladder when i first joined. Now there are what? about 300. Everyone in top 20 was real good and where they belong. Now all u see in top 20 is %*$#@$^ bs ~LLS~ NDF and IOD members that dont belong there. You can put me, sly, jpac, exit, and many others up against any ~LLS~ IOD or NDF and we would win 10 to 0. Take ~LLS~Tessa for example. She ladders a dogtut like map that u have to have glasses 2 inches thick to see anything as she does. I asked omega about the free wins. He says there is no such thing going on in the LLS clan and if there was he would find out about it. Well Omega its going on and u know about it u dyke. OmegaQuest is one of the lamest dukers i have ever met. He doesnt duke now but when i first came on kali he sucked so bad it was pathetic. ~LLS~ NDF and IOD hang out in the ~LLS~ sever aka lamers server which everyone that is good and asks one of them for a simple "LADDER match?" gtets kicked from the server. What kind of competition is it when u cant ask the TOP 5 players for a match? Honestly in my opinion ladder is so gay right now its pathetic. Omega is probably gonna respawned to out posts with his gay crap that he starts every time someone questions him. OmegaQuest doesnt belong in ladder OP. He allows this to go on. And when one of the LLS members doesnt report and they get reported for it. (all unreported match complaints go to OmegaQuest of LLS) He declines them all even when u have screenshots and everything he still declines them. We want are fawking ladder back. !!!!!!: Thanx
: Immortal-X- Re: LLS HAS DESTORYED THE ONCE POPULAR LADDER View
by *Suzaku* on September 5, 2000 at 16:28:29 PDT
Sly, lolI'm sorry to say, but I do not believe you. We need SOLID proof that LLS has been cheating. How do I know you haven't posed as an LLS on Kali, which is possible, and talked to immortal? Maybe I'm wrong, but it's a possibility. ^_^
Like I said, I'm not siding with anyone, just make sure you can defend yourself when posed with such questions.
*Suzaku*
: Today, Tuesday, Immortal X took 2 screen shots of some LLS cheating activity. I converted them to GIF's so we could view them in browser. Here they are.
: http://members.xoom.com/galaxy15/hmmz.gif
: and
: http://members.xoom.com/galaxy15/hmmz2.gif: This is only 00.5% of what lls does. We have so much more proof about LLS cheating that it's rediculous.
:
: : I agree wit sly and Exit. The way described "homosexuality" is truly correct. When i first came to kali I joined the ladder. There wasnt a single ~LLS~ member in the top 50. Finally one of them got in on the top 10 and started giving each other ladder matches (free wins). After about a month of this going on everyone started quitting ladder. There was about 6 to 7 hundred members on the ladder when i first joined. Now there are what? about 300. Everyone in top 20 was real good and where they belong. Now all u see in top 20 is %*$#@$^ bs ~LLS~ NDF and IOD members that dont belong there. You can put me, sly, jpac, exit, and many others up against any ~LLS~ IOD or NDF and we would win 10 to 0. Take ~LLS~Tessa for example. She ladders a dogtut like map that u have to have glasses 2 inches thick to see anything as she does. I asked omega about the free wins. He says there is no such thing going on in the LLS clan and if there was he would find out about it. Well Omega its going on and u know about it u dyke. OmegaQuest is one of the lamest dukers i have ever met. He doesnt duke now but when i first came on kali he sucked so bad it was pathetic. ~LLS~ NDF and IOD hang out in the ~LLS~ sever aka lamers server which everyone that is good and asks one of them for a simple "LADDER match?" gtets kicked from the server. What kind of competition is it when u cant ask the TOP 5 players for a match? Honestly in my opinion ladder is so gay right now its pathetic. Omega is probably gonna respawned to out posts with his gay crap that he starts every time someone questions him. OmegaQuest doesnt belong in ladder OP. He allows this to go on. And when one of the LLS members doesnt report and they get reported for it. (all unreported match complaints go to OmegaQuest of LLS) He declines them all even when u have screenshots and everything he still declines them. We want are fawking ladder back. !!!!!!: : Thanx
: : Immortal-X- Re: LLS HAS DESTORYED THE ONCE POPULAR LADDER View
by SLY on September 5, 2000 at 16:37:40 PDT
How is that possible when my PRIVATE MESSAGE WINDOW IS ACTIVE AND BLINKING ON HIS SCREEN!?!?!WOW YOUR A SMART ONE!
: Sly, lol
: I'm sorry to say, but I do not believe you. We need SOLID proof that LLS has been cheating. How do I know you haven't posed as an LLS on Kali, which is possible, and talked to immortal? Maybe I'm wrong, but it's a possibility. ^_^
: Like I said, I'm not siding with anyone, just make sure you can defend yourself when posed with such questions.
: *Suzaku*
: : Today, Tuesday, Immortal X took 2 screen shots of some LLS cheating activity. I converted them to GIF's so we could view them in browser. Here they are.
: : http://members.xoom.com/galaxy15/hmmz.gif
: : and
: : http://members.xoom.com/galaxy15/hmmz2.gif: : This is only 00.5% of what lls does. We have so much more proof about LLS cheating that it's rediculous.
: :
: : : I agree wit sly and Exit. The way described "homosexuality" is truly correct. When i first came to kali I joined the ladder. There wasnt a single ~LLS~ member in the top 50. Finally one of them got in on the top 10 and started giving each other ladder matches (free wins). After about a month of this going on everyone started quitting ladder. There was about 6 to 7 hundred members on the ladder when i first joined. Now there are what? about 300. Everyone in top 20 was real good and where they belong. Now all u see in top 20 is %*$#@$^ bs ~LLS~ NDF and IOD members that dont belong there. You can put me, sly, jpac, exit, and many others up against any ~LLS~ IOD or NDF and we would win 10 to 0. Take ~LLS~Tessa for example. She ladders a dogtut like map that u have to have glasses 2 inches thick to see anything as she does. I asked omega about the free wins. He says there is no such thing going on in the LLS clan and if there was he would find out about it. Well Omega its going on and u know about it u dyke. OmegaQuest is one of the lamest dukers i have ever met. He doesnt duke now but when i first came on kali he sucked so bad it was pathetic. ~LLS~ NDF and IOD hang out in the ~LLS~ sever aka lamers server which everyone that is good and asks one of them for a simple "LADDER match?" gtets kicked from the server. What kind of competition is it when u cant ask the TOP 5 players for a match? Honestly in my opinion ladder is so gay right now its pathetic. Omega is probably gonna respawned to out posts with his gay crap that he starts every time someone questions him. OmegaQuest doesnt belong in ladder OP. He allows this to go on. And when one of the LLS members doesnt report and they get reported for it. (all unreported match complaints go to OmegaQuest of LLS) He declines them all even when u have screenshots and everything he still declines them. We want are fawking ladder back. !!!!!!: : : Thanx
: : : Immortal-X- Re: LLS HAS DESTORYED THE ONCE POPULAR LADDER View
by *Suzaku* on September 5, 2000 at 16:47:03 PDT
Sly,What does your blinking Private Messages window have to do with anything? I wasn't accusing you of posing as Darkkilla. I'm just asking how you know for certain that it was Darkkilla speaking? If I recall correctly, Darkkilla was on as an unregistered user earlier, was it really him?
*Suzaku*
: How is that possible when my PRIVATE MESSAGE WINDOW IS ACTIVE AND BLINKING ON HIS SCREEN!?!?!
: WOW YOUR A SMART ONE!
: : Sly, lol
: : I'm sorry to say, but I do not believe you. We need SOLID proof that LLS has been cheating. How do I know you haven't posed as an LLS on Kali, which is possible, and talked to immortal? Maybe I'm wrong, but it's a possibility. ^_^
: : Like I said, I'm not siding with anyone, just make sure you can defend yourself when posed with such questions.
: : *Suzaku*
:
: : : Today, Tuesday, Immortal X took 2 screen shots of some LLS cheating activity. I converted them to GIF's so we could view them in browser. Here they are.
: : : http://members.xoom.com/galaxy15/hmmz.gif
: : : and
: : : http://members.xoom.com/galaxy15/hmmz2.gif: : : This is only 00.5% of what lls does. We have so much more proof about LLS cheating that it's rediculous.
: : :
: : : : I agree wit sly and Exit. The way described "homosexuality" is truly correct. When i first came to kali I joined the ladder. There wasnt a single ~LLS~ member in the top 50. Finally one of them got in on the top 10 and started giving each other ladder matches (free wins). After about a month of this going on everyone started quitting ladder. There was about 6 to 7 hundred members on the ladder when i first joined. Now there are what? about 300. Everyone in top 20 was real good and where they belong. Now all u see in top 20 is %*$#@$^ bs ~LLS~ NDF and IOD members that dont belong there. You can put me, sly, jpac, exit, and many others up against any ~LLS~ IOD or NDF and we would win 10 to 0. Take ~LLS~Tessa for example. She ladders a dogtut like map that u have to have glasses 2 inches thick to see anything as she does. I asked omega about the free wins. He says there is no such thing going on in the LLS clan and if there was he would find out about it. Well Omega its going on and u know about it u dyke. OmegaQuest is one of the lamest dukers i have ever met. He doesnt duke now but when i first came on kali he sucked so bad it was pathetic. ~LLS~ NDF and IOD hang out in the ~LLS~ sever aka lamers server which everyone that is good and asks one of them for a simple "LADDER match?" gtets kicked from the server. What kind of competition is it when u cant ask the TOP 5 players for a match? Honestly in my opinion ladder is so gay right now its pathetic. Omega is probably gonna respawned to out posts with his gay crap that he starts every time someone questions him. OmegaQuest doesnt belong in ladder OP. He allows this to go on. And when one of the LLS members doesnt report and they get reported for it. (all unreported match complaints go to OmegaQuest of LLS) He declines them all even when u have screenshots and everything he still declines them. We want are fawking ladder back. !!!!!!: : : : Thanx
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by *Suzaku* on September 5, 2000 at 17:02:45 PDT
Someone just confirmed to me that it was indeed Darkkilla. Earlier, I just wanted a simple question answered, was that in fact him? Why was such a simplistic question taken so harshly? Show me proof, and I will say I am wrong. As easy as that. :) Now all you people stop hating me!*Suzaku*
: Sly,: What does your blinking Private Messages window have to do with anything? I wasn't accusing you of posing as Darkkilla. I'm just asking how you know for certain that it was Darkkilla speaking? If I recall correctly, Darkkilla was on as an unregistered user earlier, was it really him?
: *Suzaku*
: : How is that possible when my PRIVATE MESSAGE WINDOW IS ACTIVE AND BLINKING ON HIS SCREEN!?!?!
: : WOW YOUR A SMART ONE!
: : : Sly, lol
: : : I'm sorry to say, but I do not believe you. We need SOLID proof that LLS has been cheating. How do I know you haven't posed as an LLS on Kali, which is possible, and talked to immortal? Maybe I'm wrong, but it's a possibility. ^_^
: : : Like I said, I'm not siding with anyone, just make sure you can defend yourself when posed with such questions.
: : : *Suzaku*
: :
: : : : Today, Tuesday, Immortal X took 2 screen shots of some LLS cheating activity. I converted them to GIF's so we could view them in browser. Here they are.
: : : : http://members.xoom.com/galaxy15/hmmz.gif
: : : : and
: : : : http://members.xoom.com/galaxy15/hmmz2.gif: : : : This is only 00.5% of what lls does. We have so much more proof about LLS cheating that it's rediculous.
: : : :
: : : : : I agree wit sly and Exit. The way described "homosexuality" is truly correct. When i first came to kali I joined the ladder. There wasnt a single ~LLS~ member in the top 50. Finally one of them got in on the top 10 and started giving each other ladder matches (free wins). After about a month of this going on everyone started quitting ladder. There was about 6 to 7 hundred members on the ladder when i first joined. Now there are what? about 300. Everyone in top 20 was real good and where they belong. Now all u see in top 20 is %*$#@$^ bs ~LLS~ NDF and IOD members that dont belong there. You can put me, sly, jpac, exit, and many others up against any ~LLS~ IOD or NDF and we would win 10 to 0. Take ~LLS~Tessa for example. She ladders a dogtut like map that u have to have glasses 2 inches thick to see anything as she does. I asked omega about the free wins. He says there is no such thing going on in the LLS clan and if there was he would find out about it. Well Omega its going on and u know about it u dyke. OmegaQuest is one of the lamest dukers i have ever met. He doesnt duke now but when i first came on kali he sucked so bad it was pathetic. ~LLS~ NDF and IOD hang out in the ~LLS~ sever aka lamers server which everyone that is good and asks one of them for a simple "LADDER match?" gtets kicked from the server. What kind of competition is it when u cant ask the TOP 5 players for a match? Honestly in my opinion ladder is so gay right now its pathetic. Omega is probably gonna respawned to out posts with his gay crap that he starts every time someone questions him. OmegaQuest doesnt belong in ladder OP. He allows this to go on. And when one of the LLS members doesnt report and they get reported for it. (all unreported match complaints go to OmegaQuest of LLS) He declines them all even when u have screenshots and everything he still declines them. We want are fawking ladder back. !!!!!!: : : : : Thanx
: : : : : Immortal-X- Re: Guess What : View
by *Suzaku* on September 5, 2000 at 17:18:21 PDT
Ok this is so pathetic. I take back my last comment about that being Darkkilla. It seems we have many liars, *not mentioning names* and I don't know who to believe. Sometimes people would stoop the lowest just to have things their way...*Suzaku*
: Someone just confirmed to me that it was indeed Darkkilla. Earlier, I just wanted a simple question answered, was that in fact him? Why was such a simplistic question taken so harshly? Show me proof, and I will say I am wrong. As easy as that. :) Now all you people stop hating me!
: *Suzaku*
:
: : Sly,: : What does your blinking Private Messages window have to do with anything? I wasn't accusing you of posing as Darkkilla. I'm just asking how you know for certain that it was Darkkilla speaking? If I recall correctly, Darkkilla was on as an unregistered user earlier, was it really him?
: : *Suzaku*
: : : How is that possible when my PRIVATE MESSAGE WINDOW IS ACTIVE AND BLINKING ON HIS SCREEN!?!?!
: : : WOW YOUR A SMART ONE!
: : : : Sly, lol
: : : : I'm sorry to say, but I do not believe you. We need SOLID proof that LLS has been cheating. How do I know you haven't posed as an LLS on Kali, which is possible, and talked to immortal? Maybe I'm wrong, but it's a possibility. ^_^
: : : : Like I said, I'm not siding with anyone, just make sure you can defend yourself when posed with such questions.
: : : : *Suzaku*
: : :
: : : : : Today, Tuesday, Immortal X took 2 screen shots of some LLS cheating activity. I converted them to GIF's so we could view them in browser. Here they are.
: : : : : http://members.xoom.com/galaxy15/hmmz.gif
: : : : : and
: : : : : http://members.xoom.com/galaxy15/hmmz2.gif: : : : : This is only 00.5% of what lls does. We have so much more proof about LLS cheating that it's rediculous.
: : : : :
: : : : : : I agree wit sly and Exit. The way described "homosexuality" is truly correct. When i first came to kali I joined the ladder. There wasnt a single ~LLS~ member in the top 50. Finally one of them got in on the top 10 and started giving each other ladder matches (free wins). After about a month of this going on everyone started quitting ladder. There was about 6 to 7 hundred members on the ladder when i first joined. Now there are what? about 300. Everyone in top 20 was real good and where they belong. Now all u see in top 20 is %*$#@$^ bs ~LLS~ NDF and IOD members that dont belong there. You can put me, sly, jpac, exit, and many others up against any ~LLS~ IOD or NDF and we would win 10 to 0. Take ~LLS~Tessa for example. She ladders a dogtut like map that u have to have glasses 2 inches thick to see anything as she does. I asked omega about the free wins. He says there is no such thing going on in the LLS clan and if there was he would find out about it. Well Omega its going on and u know about it u dyke. OmegaQuest is one of the lamest dukers i have ever met. He doesnt duke now but when i first came on kali he sucked so bad it was pathetic. ~LLS~ NDF and IOD hang out in the ~LLS~ sever aka lamers server which everyone that is good and asks one of them for a simple "LADDER match?" gtets kicked from the server. What kind of competition is it when u cant ask the TOP 5 players for a match? Honestly in my opinion ladder is so gay right now its pathetic. Omega is probably gonna respawned to out posts with his gay crap that he starts every time someone questions him. OmegaQuest doesnt belong in ladder OP. He allows this to go on. And when one of the LLS members doesnt report and they get reported for it. (all unreported match complaints go to OmegaQuest of LLS) He declines them all even when u have screenshots and everything he still declines them. We want are fawking ladder back. !!!!!!: : : : : : Thanx
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by ExiT on September 5, 2000 at 15:08:25 PDT
Preach On Rev. SLY.... but I agree with him. Everytime someone not in LLS, IOD, or NDF gets close to the top, those little !@#*!#&@s give out the wins and bump all the good players back down. None of the LLS, IOD, or NDF desereve to be in those positoins. For example, I finally got a match with *IOD*Primer. I let him choose level and speed. He chose IODanzig.map and speed 4. I hate IODanzig and I hate speed 4. But I played him anyways cause I need the rank. But we played in his map on his speed and I won 10-0. THATS POTHETIC, and I think he was ranked like 5! And the reason this continues is because ~LLS~OmegaQuest, one of the lamest dukers in history somehow became a ladder op. How, i don't know, because anyone on the duke server would not vote for his ass. So like SLY says, we want ~LLS~OmegaQuest removed from his ladder-op position and put someone more suited for that position, like... Me or SLY. And that old ladder back. The old days of ladder were the best, so fun and so competitive. Now, there is no fun and none of it is competitive, it's a CHEATING ladder. We want our ladder back to the way it was. Well, I'm short on words. FIX IT!Thankz/PeaCe OuT,
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by *Suzaku* on September 5, 2000 at 16:04:37 PDT
Ok Sly, Exit, and everyone else,First of all, I doubt everyone quit the Duke Ladder because of those clans. You all know how old the game is now, and since last year, many people have moved on to newer games.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems the only reason you're bad-mouthing OmegaQuest and the ladder is because you want to be ladder-ops. I'm NOT siding with OmegaQuest, I'm just giving one assumption from your posts.
I'm sorry to say, but I TOTALLY disagree with either Exit OR Sly being ladder-ops, just as much as I disagree with OmegaQuest being one also. I can almost guarantee 100% that you will have favoritism among the members, and will turn a blind eye if one of your friends cheat. I also think that OmegaQuest should not be ladder-op, only because he is part of LLS, and it does seem there is something peculiar when most of the clanmembers along with IOD and NDF are taking up space in the top 20. I'm sure not everyone in those clans are that good, *though I may be mistaken* and there are loners and other clanmembers on this ladder who have better duking skills.
I agree that the laddering days of old were the best. But as I said, almost everyone has moved on, leaving only the die-hard dukers to play the game. I hate to see everyone arguing over something as petty as the ladder. People need something reliable to depend on, such as the way the ladder was a year ago. But if it has been corrupted, what else do they have to turn to? Fewer and fewer people will remain playing duke if this childishness is kept up.
All in all, I think a ladder-op should be a neutral referee, if you may; someone who will treat each case without favoring one side. That is the only way to be sure no one is messing with the ladder. People need to stop cheating just because they're too lazy to duke honestly. How immature can you get?
*Suzaku*
: Preach On Rev. SLY.... but I agree with him. Everytime someone not in LLS, IOD, or NDF gets close to the top, those little !@#*!#&@s give out the wins and bump all the good players back down. None of the LLS, IOD, or NDF desereve to be in those positoins. For example, I finally got a match with *IOD*Primer. I let him choose level and speed. He chose IODanzig.map and speed 4. I hate IODanzig and I hate speed 4. But I played him anyways cause I need the rank. But we played in his map on his speed and I won 10-0. THATS POTHETIC, and I think he was ranked like 5! And the reason this continues is because ~LLS~OmegaQuest, one of the lamest dukers in history somehow became a ladder op. How, i don't know, because anyone on the duke server would not vote for his ass. So like SLY says, we want ~LLS~OmegaQuest removed from his ladder-op position and put someone more suited for that position, like... Me or SLY. And that old ladder back. The old days of ladder were the best, so fun and so competitive. Now, there is no fun and none of it is competitive, it's a CHEATING ladder. We want our ladder back to the way it was. Well, I'm short on words. FIX IT!: Thankz/PeaCe OuT,
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by SLY on September 6, 2000 at 20:07:35 PDT
Um suzaku, 1, you dont play duke, therefore you dont know the problems that are taking place. 2. you have never been in the LLS server to see the bull#### that goes on. 3. Did I EVER say I wanted to be a ladder OP? NO!
Suzaku, you know the ladder is horrible when i defeat the #2 rank 10-0 in iodanzig. I mean CMON!
and for proof. MY GOD HOW MUCH PROOF DO YOU NEED!? The man@tetons emails, the LAZOR/PRIMER free wins, (when they were not on kali for 3 days), the immortal screen shots, the non reporting ~LLS~Knowledge complaints, the 300 complaints sent to ladder about omega, the total GRIPING IN the duke server about LLS.
Even if u dont play the game, you should know about the cheating LLS BS. But of course your iq is equivilent to room temp. so...
SLY: Ok Sly, Exit, and everyone else,
: First of all, I doubt everyone quit the Duke Ladder because of those clans. You all know how old the game is now, and since last year, many people have moved on to newer games.
: Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems the only reason you're bad-mouthing OmegaQuest and the ladder is because you want to be ladder-ops. I'm NOT siding with OmegaQuest, I'm just giving one assumption from your posts.
: I'm sorry to say, but I TOTALLY disagree with either Exit OR Sly being ladder-ops, just as much as I disagree with OmegaQuest being one also. I can almost guarantee 100% that you will have favoritism among the members, and will turn a blind eye if one of your friends cheat. I also think that OmegaQuest should not be ladder-op, only because he is part of LLS, and it does seem there is something peculiar when most of the clanmembers along with IOD and NDF are taking up space in the top 20. I'm sure not everyone in those clans are that good, *though I may be mistaken* and there are loners and other clanmembers on this ladder who have better duking skills.
: I agree that the laddering days of old were the best. But as I said, almost everyone has moved on, leaving only the die-hard dukers to play the game. I hate to see everyone arguing over something as petty as the ladder. People need something reliable to depend on, such as the way the ladder was a year ago. But if it has been corrupted, what else do they have to turn to? Fewer and fewer people will remain playing duke if this childishness is kept up.
: All in all, I think a ladder-op should be a neutral referee, if you may; someone who will treat each case without favoring one side. That is the only way to be sure no one is messing with the ladder. People need to stop cheating just because they're too lazy to duke honestly. How immature can you get?
: *Suzaku*
:
: : Preach On Rev. SLY.... but I agree with him. Everytime someone not in LLS, IOD, or NDF gets close to the top, those little !@#*!#&@s give out the wins and bump all the good players back down. None of the LLS, IOD, or NDF desereve to be in those positoins. For example, I finally got a match with *IOD*Primer. I let him choose level and speed. He chose IODanzig.map and speed 4. I hate IODanzig and I hate speed 4. But I played him anyways cause I need the rank. But we played in his map on his speed and I won 10-0. THATS POTHETIC, and I think he was ranked like 5! And the reason this continues is because ~LLS~OmegaQuest, one of the lamest dukers in history somehow became a ladder op. How, i don't know, because anyone on the duke server would not vote for his ass. So like SLY says, we want ~LLS~OmegaQuest removed from his ladder-op position and put someone more suited for that position, like... Me or SLY. And that old ladder back. The old days of ladder were the best, so fun and so competitive. Now, there is no fun and none of it is competitive, it's a CHEATING ladder. We want our ladder back to the way it was. Well, I'm short on words. FIX IT!: : Thankz/PeaCe OuT,
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by !AsX!Akzodream on September 18, 2000 at 14:22:27 PDT
Sly,I read your comments with as great an interest as ever. I have the following comments to make to you:
1) !AsX!*Suzaku* plays duke occasionally, however she visits the 630 server often so I think she is rather well informed.
2) Sly, you are banned from the LLS server. How can you tell what 'bull' is going on there if you cannot visit the place?
3) Last year, I think around September, your name was in the voting booth to become a ladderop. So yes, you did say you wanted to become a ladderop.
4) Evidence...well, that is a good one. Both points you made can be easily countered. Screenshots? Anyone can sign on as Darkkilla.
Email? Can be a fake.. I think I can make a similar email. If you are calling something evidence I suggest you find something that the
opposition cannot counter.5) Griping in the 630 about LLS. Well..interesting. Ever understood the basics of physcology Sly? Basically one of the first things you will learn is that people can be influenced rather easily, especially at a certain age. If a lot of people start insulting LLS and there is
no one taking the side of LLS...people will side with the only person giving info. Basically: if you and some others insult LLS, say bad things about them, start a little rumour etc. and LLS is not replying, people will think you are right because there is no one to contradict you.6) Owww Sly. Insulting Suzaku by comparing her IQ to room temperature? Sly, first thing about a GOOD insult is that you find something that the
other party really does not like. For instance, the match we had in IOD2 when you left at 9 - 2 me. I am sure you are gonna report that match
Sly? I checked Cases rules...guess what.. premature leaving is considered to acknowledge defeat. Now that can be taken as an insult.Conclusion: I have no ambition in taking sides in this thing. I don't say the ladder is clean or that Sly is seeing ghosts. However, if someone accuses others of cheating keep in mind that he
has to prove that. If you cannot, either shut up or find evidence. Also keep in mind that IF you say someone cheats..Sly, are you sure you never cheated yourself? That is called hypocrisy.Regards and enjoy the game (that is what it was meant for).
!AsX!Akzodream
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by *Suzaku* on September 18, 2000 at 13:14:57 PDT
Sly,I had no idea you even replied to me in this forum until Akzodream pointed it out. That is how important this issue is to me. I gave my opinion, and I am insulted for it? Since when did I deserve such disrespect? Just because I don't play duke doesn't mean I can't comment it on. Like football, you watch what's happening and show how you feel; but you don't PLAY football do you? Even if you do play the game, I am just making a metaphor, if you even know what that is.
I never said you wanted to be ladder op. What I was disagreeing with was the IDEA of you possibly becoming one. Yes, I HAVE been to the LLS server recently, and I didn't see bullsh*t. And another thing, all your supposed 'proof' is not really that. This is the ONLINE world, anything and EVERYTHING can be fake, so how can you expect me to believe you?
Also, in reply to your meager attempt at an insult to my intelligence, try harder. Do you even know what room temperature is? If converted into Kelvin it would be quite high, so I thank you for your compliment. Sly, I can hardly believe you are older than me, how is that possible? Age is said to bring wisdom, but obviously you missed it on the way up. Your immaturity makes you look stupid, so either you get your act together or let us continue laughing at you.
*Suzaku*
: Um suzaku, 1, you dont play duke, therefore you dont know the problems that are taking place. 2. you have never been in the LLS server to see the bull#### that goes on. 3. Did I EVER say I wanted to be a ladder OP? NO!
: Suzaku, you know the ladder is horrible when i defeat the #2 rank 10-0 in iodanzig. I mean CMON!
: and for proof. MY GOD HOW MUCH PROOF DO YOU NEED!? The man@tetons emails, the LAZOR/PRIMER free wins, (when they were not on kali for 3 days), the immortal screen shots, the non reporting ~LLS~Knowledge complaints, the 300 complaints sent to ladder about omega, the total GRIPING IN the duke server about LLS.
: Even if u dont play the game, you should know about the cheating LLS BS. But of course your iq is equivilent to room temp. so...
: SLY: : Ok Sly, Exit, and everyone else,
: : First of all, I doubt everyone quit the Duke Ladder because of those clans. You all know how old the game is now, and since last year, many people have moved on to newer games.
: : Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems the only reason you're bad-mouthing OmegaQuest and the ladder is because you want to be ladder-ops. I'm NOT siding with OmegaQuest, I'm just giving one assumption from your posts.
: : I'm sorry to say, but I TOTALLY disagree with either Exit OR Sly being ladder-ops, just as much as I disagree with OmegaQuest being one also. I can almost guarantee 100% that you will have favoritism among the members, and will turn a blind eye if one of your friends cheat. I also think that OmegaQuest should not be ladder-op, only because he is part of LLS, and it does seem there is something peculiar when most of the clanmembers along with IOD and NDF are taking up space in the top 20. I'm sure not everyone in those clans are that good, *though I may be mistaken* and there are loners and other clanmembers on this ladder who have better duking skills.
: : I agree that the laddering days of old were the best. But as I said, almost everyone has moved on, leaving only the die-hard dukers to play the game. I hate to see everyone arguing over something as petty as the ladder. People need something reliable to depend on, such as the way the ladder was a year ago. But if it has been corrupted, what else do they have to turn to? Fewer and fewer people will remain playing duke if this childishness is kept up.
: : All in all, I think a ladder-op should be a neutral referee, if you may; someone who will treat each case without favoring one side. That is the only way to be sure no one is messing with the ladder. People need to stop cheating just because they're too lazy to duke honestly. How immature can you get?
: : *Suzaku*
: :
: : : Preach On Rev. SLY.... but I agree with him. Everytime someone not in LLS, IOD, or NDF gets close to the top, those little !@#*!#&@s give out the wins and bump all the good players back down. None of the LLS, IOD, or NDF desereve to be in those positoins. For example, I finally got a match with *IOD*Primer. I let him choose level and speed. He chose IODanzig.map and speed 4. I hate IODanzig and I hate speed 4. But I played him anyways cause I need the rank. But we played in his map on his speed and I won 10-0. THATS POTHETIC, and I think he was ranked like 5! And the reason this continues is because ~LLS~OmegaQuest, one of the lamest dukers in history somehow became a ladder op. How, i don't know, because anyone on the duke server would not vote for his ass. So like SLY says, we want ~LLS~OmegaQuest removed from his ladder-op position and put someone more suited for that position, like... Me or SLY. And that old ladder back. The old days of ladder were the best, so fun and so competitive. Now, there is no fun and none of it is competitive, it's a CHEATING ladder. We want our ladder back to the way it was. Well, I'm short on words. FIX IT!: : : Thankz/PeaCe OuT,
: : : FLiP[Post automatically censored for profanity]
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by ~LLS~OmegaQuest on September 16, 2000 at 13:41:54 PDTFirst lets me try to get something threw your head:
1- The man@tetons emails: I cant say anything about this cause I didn't get this e-mail and don't know what it was about.
2- the LAZOR/PRIMER free wins, (when they were not on kali for 3 days): This was already proven that Lazor and Primer was on their other set of serials and Case's already knew this and that is why nothing was done. Head Ladder Op even knew this. Just because you don't know what's going on don't mean something is going on.
3- the immortal screen shots: Darkkilla was kicked out because of his lies. Also 1 day later everyone came on server and said it turned out NOT to be Dakkilla and was You, makes you think.
4- the non reporting ~LLS~Knowledge complaints: I didn't see these complaints because, I CAN NOT DO ~LLS~ Complaints, it Auto goes to the Head Op because I requested this be done cause they are my clan.
5- the 300 complaints sent to ladder about omega: 300? ROFLMAO, there has only been 2 maybe 3, and those were from YOU and your "Team".
6- the total GRIPING IN the duke server about LLS: Duke server has nothing to do with ~LLS~ and I know I for 1 could care less what you talk about in there, 630 has gone to cussing every other word, lammers headquarters. Talk what you want in there, I could care less.
7- Anyone who doesn't agree with you, you always try to cuss them out and all that shows is you get pissed fast, you have no control over your emotions and you are just "LAME"
Now that all your "So Called Proof" has been rejected, maybe now you can get on with your life.
Well thanks for your time and I hope one day you will see the light, God Bless.
~LLS~OmegaQuest
Ladder Op
Head TD
Case's Ladder--------------------------------------------------
: Um suzaku, 1, you dont play duke, therefore you dont know the problems that are taking place. 2. you have never been in the LLS server to see the bull#### that goes on. 3. Did I EVER say I wanted to be a ladder OP? NO!
: Suzaku, you know the ladder is horrible when i defeat the #2 rank 10-0 in iodanzig. I mean CMON!
: and for proof. MY GOD HOW MUCH PROOF DO YOU NEED!? The man@tetons emails, the LAZOR/PRIMER free wins, (when they were not on kali for 3 days), the immortal screen shots, the non reporting ~LLS~Knowledge complaints, the 300 complaints sent to ladder about omega, the total GRIPING IN the duke server about LLS.
: Even if u dont play the game, you should know about the cheating LLS BS. But of course your iq is equivilent to room temp. so...
: SLY: : Ok Sly, Exit, and everyone else,
: : First of all, I doubt everyone quit the Duke Ladder because of those clans. You all know how old the game is now, and since last year, many people have moved on to newer games.
: : Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems the only reason you're bad-mouthing OmegaQuest and the ladder is because you want to be ladder-ops. I'm NOT siding with OmegaQuest, I'm just giving one assumption from your posts.
: : I'm sorry to say, but I TOTALLY disagree with either Exit OR Sly being ladder-ops, just as much as I disagree with OmegaQuest being one also. I can almost guarantee 100% that you will have favoritism among the members, and will turn a blind eye if one of your friends cheat. I also think that OmegaQuest should not be ladder-op, only because he is part of LLS, and it does seem there is something peculiar when most of the clanmembers along with IOD and NDF are taking up space in the top 20. I'm sure not everyone in those clans are that good, *though I may be mistaken* and there are loners and other clanmembers on this ladder who have better duking skills.
: : I agree that the laddering days of old were the best. But as I said, almost everyone has moved on, leaving only the die-hard dukers to play the game. I hate to see everyone arguing over something as petty as the ladder. People need something reliable to depend on, such as the way the ladder was a year ago. But if it has been corrupted, what else do they have to turn to? Fewer and fewer people will remain playing duke if this childishness is kept up.
: : All in all, I think a ladder-op should be a neutral referee, if you may; someone who will treat each case without favoring one side. That is the only way to be sure no one is messing with the ladder. People need to stop cheating just because they're too lazy to duke honestly. How immature can you get?
: : *Suzaku*
: :
: : : Preach On Rev. SLY.... but I agree with him. Everytime someone not in LLS, IOD, or NDF gets close to the top, those little !@#*!#&@s give out the wins and bump all the good players back down. None of the LLS, IOD, or NDF desereve to be in those positoins. For example, I finally got a match with *IOD*Primer. I let him choose level and speed. He chose IODanzig.map and speed 4. I hate IODanzig and I hate speed 4. But I played him anyways cause I need the rank. But we played in his map on his speed and I won 10-0. THATS POTHETIC, and I think he was ranked like 5! And the reason this continues is because ~LLS~OmegaQuest, one of the lamest dukers in history somehow became a ladder op. How, i don't know, because anyone on the duke server would not vote for his ass. So like SLY says, we want ~LLS~OmegaQuest removed from his ladder-op position and put someone more suited for that position, like... Me or SLY. And that old ladder back. The old days of ladder were the best, so fun and so competitive. Now, there is no fun and none of it is competitive, it's a CHEATING ladder. We want our ladder back to the way it was. Well, I'm short on words. FIX IT!: : : Thankz/PeaCe OuT,
: : : FLiP[Post automatically censored for profanity]
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by KurtAngle on September 5, 2000 at 16:17:44 PDT
you see , this is how it is...you cant have a person that shows favortism torwards other members..therefore, ide like to let all my fans out there that your Olympic Hero no longer plays duke3d and he would be a great person for the ladder op position, Its True Its True...there are 3 main reasons why i should be the ladder op, and it is The three I�s: intelligence, integrity and intensity...Your Olympic hero has spoken..its true its true.
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