: Hi Folks, i would like to know why an "op" can't be in the top 25. Aren't they players just like those of us who are not ops? They don't have an inside track to the cards do they? j/k
: I would not want to become an "op" knowing that I can not play in the case lobby like a regular player and try to get up the ladder. What would be the sense in playing.
: I'm sure there is a very reasonable sensible explanation, so that is why i'm asking.
: thank you much :):)

• Re: OPS - ranking View
    by MBusLady on July 6, 2002 at 22:56:46 PDT
  
  I understand the reasons for ops not to be in top 25 on the ladder they are an op on (even though I disagree when the ladder is so small). BUT, I think the new ruling that cases ops can't be in the top 25 on ANY (EVEN ones they are not ops on)Cases ladder is absurd!!! Op's should be able to compete like everyone else on ladders they are not op's on, after all they need releases and feel good's too!!! I truly feel that Cases will eventually regret this decision when op's start quitting. :o(

  
  : Hi Aubster
  : As a ladder op it is our duty to see that ladder rules are followed by all users. If a ladder op is in the top 25 and has to rung a user it can be beneficial to to the ladder op. It can be argued that some ladder ops could abuse their abilities to raise their own standings and to keep themselves in a hank ranking position.
  : By not allowing lader ops in the top 25 you take away the temptation for the ladder op to abuse the .
  : I hope this helps to explain things.
  : ShyEagle

  : : Hi Folks, i would like to know why an "op" can't be in the top 25. Aren't they players just like those of us who are not ops? They don't have an inside track to the cards do they? j/k
  : : I would not want to become an "op" knowing that I can not play in the case lobby like a regular player and try to get up the ladder. What would be the sense in playing.
  : : I'm sure there is a very reasonable sensible explanation, so that is why i'm asking.
  : : thank you much :):)

  
  

  • Re: OPS - ranking View
      by shyeagle on July 7, 2002 at 08:57:08 PDT
    
    On other than the home ladder ops can not be in the TOP TEN, they may be in the top 25.
    Sorry if i misled anyone.

    ShyEagle

    : I understand the reasons for ops not to be in top 25 on the ladder they are an op on (even though I disagree when the ladder is so small). BUT, I think the new ruling that cases ops can't be in the top 25 on ANY (EVEN ones they are not ops on)Cases ladder is absurd!!! Op's should be able to compete like everyone else on ladders they are not op's on, after all they need releases and feel good's too!!! I truly feel that Cases will eventually regret this decision when op's start quitting. :o(

    :
    : : Hi Aubster
    : : As a ladder op it is our duty to see that ladder rules are followed by all users. If a ladder op is in the top 25 and has to rung a user it can be beneficial to to the ladder op. It can be argued that some ladder ops could abuse their abilities to raise their own standings and to keep themselves in a hank ranking position.
    : : By not allowing lader ops in the top 25 you take away the temptation for the ladder op to abuse the .
    : : I hope this helps to explain things.
    : : ShyEagle

    : : : Hi Folks, i would like to know why an "op" can't be in the top 25. Aren't they players just like those of us who are not ops? They don't have an inside track to the cards do they? j/k
    : : : I would not want to become an "op" knowing that I can not play in the case lobby like a regular player and try to get up the ladder. What would be the sense in playing.
    : : : I'm sure there is a very reasonable sensible explanation, so that is why i'm asking.
    : : : thank you much :):)

    
    

    • Re: OPS - ranking View
        by MBusLady on July 7, 2002 at 13:02:53 PDT
      
      I still think that isn't fair

      : On other than the home ladder ops can not be in the TOP TEN, they may be in the top 25.
      : Sorry if i misled anyone.

      : ShyEagle

      : : I understand the reasons for ops not to be in top 25 on the ladder they are an op on (even though I disagree when the ladder is so small). BUT, I think the new ruling that cases ops can't be in the top 25 on ANY (EVEN ones they are not ops on)Cases ladder is absurd!!! Op's should be able to compete like everyone else on ladders they are not op's on, after all they need releases and feel good's too!!! I truly feel that Cases will eventually regret this decision when op's start quitting. :o(

      : :
      : : : Hi Aubster
      : : : As a ladder op it is our duty to see that ladder rules are followed by all users. If a ladder op is in the top 25 and has to rung a user it can be beneficial to to the ladder op. It can be argued that some ladder ops could abuse their abilities to raise their own standings and to keep themselves in a hank ranking position.
      : : : By not allowing lader ops in the top 25 you take away the temptation for the ladder op to abuse the .
      : : : I hope this helps to explain things.
      : : : ShyEagle

      : : : : Hi Folks, i would like to know why an "op" can't be in the top 25. Aren't they players just like those of us who are not ops? They don't have an inside track to the cards do they? j/k
      : : : : I would not want to become an "op" knowing that I can not play in the case lobby like a regular player and try to get up the ladder. What would be the sense in playing.
      : : : : I'm sure there is a very reasonable sensible explanation, so that is why i'm asking.
      : : : : thank you much :):)

      
      

      • Re: OPS - ranking View
          by mrskoala on July 9, 2002 at 06:55:05 PDT
        
        The rule is in effect for the ladder that you are opped on for not being in the top 25 partly due to the fact that upholding the rules can get dicey in those positions, for one. For Two, defending that position could, not necessarily would, take time away from helping to keep the ladder running smoothly and helping new people.
        As for the being in the top ten on another ladder the higher up staff believe that the time it takes to defend the ranks in the top ten would take time away from that person doing their op duties in a timely fashion.
        mrskoala/Serena

        
        

• Re: OPS - ranking View
    by TheAubster on July 6, 2002 at 11:45:55 PDT
  
  :Hi ShyEagle - thank you for taking the time to reply. i now understand. it's too bad that because of a few bad apples lurking about that everyone is under suspicion, but i do understand.
  i'm assuming our rankings still count the same as they would when we play a non-op person.
  thx again :):) tootles
  
  
  • Re: OPS - ranking View
      by shyeagle on July 7, 2002 at 08:55:14 PDT
    
    YES, the stats are the same, win, loss, and if the ladder op is ranked above you and you win you still move up, everything is the same.

    ShyEagle

    : :Hi ShyEagle - thank you for taking the time to reply. i now understand. it's too bad that because of a few bad apples lurking about that everyone is under suspicion, but i do understand.
    : i'm assuming our rankings still count the same as they would when we play a non-op person.
    : thx again :):) tootles